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This is a brilliant comparison and very useful to bear in mind when blogging. I love watching Wayne’s World. What stands out for me most is the enthusiasm they seemed to have for everything they were doing.

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Scott,
I’m a little surprised. Wayne’s World?

Wasn’t Wayne’s world a skit on a sinful show called SNL? Wasn’t WW a skit in which they made lots of off color remarks, and sexual jokes (including your quote above) and glorified carnal worldy pleasure?

I fail to see how this could possibly impact a Christian ministry except as a vehicle to point out what to stay away from.

I would urge you to think about the separation of a Christian from the sinful world…how we are to think about things that edify us; things that are good, and holy.

1st John: Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world— the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world.

Now THAT’S a verse that could change your minsitry, instead of something blasphmous like WW.

Are you serious? How old are you? 12? Is this a Christian website? I am really confused by this. How can a silly, sexually suggestive, bunch of garbage help a “ministry”?

I have an example of a life-lesson I learned from a movie. It’s a story of a young woman who feels like an outcast and has to struggle to find her place in the world. With a little help from her friends she succeeds and defeats the evil antogonist and becomes what she always dreams of. It’s called Showgirls.
The point is where do you draw the line with this intermingling between our fallen culture and the Word of God. When is the Bible not enough and we have to “hip” it up with a culture that despises Christ? You can find a “good, moral” story in anything, South Park, Sin City, while we are at it what about a well scripted porn? Where is the line? Sin is sin and the Bible is the only standard. The Bible does not need your help in keeping it relevant or exciting.

Matt,
I couldn’t have put it any better than you did. Nice illustration.

I was asked to respond directly. So, here goes nothing.

@Robert - First, I think you’re confused about what blasphemy is and what qualifies as such. Second, be careful that you don’t misuse Scripture and cite passages out of context. John wasn’t referring to movies or the use of movies as illustrations. He was referring to believer’s tendency (in his day) to hang on to their old religion instead of giving it up to follow Christ. Different subject entirely.

@Robbie - Nope, not 12.

@Matt - First, your illustration doesn’t line up with the Bible, so no, it doesn’t work. Second, I see zero intermingling with fallen culture and the Word. Because they’re mentioned in the same blog post? Because my audience can more readily identify with Wayne’s World? Because cultural relevance is as important to effective communication as spiritual relevance? Where ever the line is to be drawn, I’ll make sure my conscience lets me know. But, thanks for the heads up.

Hey Scott,

Thanks for the reply.
Of course my illustration doesn’t line up with the Bible, that’s the point. Neither does Wayne’s World. To see an example of “good deeds” in culture does not mean it is Biblical in any way. To say we need Wayne or Garth to help bring people to want to study the Word is not only insulting to the people but to the Word itself.
Where we disagree is that I believe the only two things an unsaved person needs to desire to learn about the Lord is the Bible and the Holy Spirit. By using a culture that is indeed fallen and sinful we begin to compromise (the ends justify the means mentality) and we bring repute to the church.
What really concerned me about your post, Scott, is your last point. Once you ignore verses like Philippians 2:15,(”We are to be blameless, innocent children of God, above reproach in the midst of a crooked and perverse generation among whom you appear as lights in the world.”) than all you have left is your conscience to lead the way. To say that you can discern what is right by your conscience alone and not direct instruction from the Word of God is dangerous.

@Matt - Necessity and usefulness are two different things. We certainly don’t need Wayne’s World, but the illustration is useful. We might also disagree on what culture is. To me culture is a language that is illustrated using certain tools of communication. The culture is not fallen. The souls of people are fallen. And, using conscience doesn’t exclude the movement of God. In fact, our conscience IS the movement of God within the framework of Scripture.